With an evangelical upbringing, the mind of a scientist, and a heart of gold, CJ Bishop is out to make waves and help us rethink the way we do community and life together. Tune in and learn how CJ is getting real data on the things that matter most from women in leadership, to forging the way forward for todays college students.

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